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Post by Allec on Apr 2, 2015 20:04:38 GMT -6
Spurred on by the conversation on aiwelin 's introduction post, let's talk about river spirits! To start, how did you approach the river spirit you honor/worship/revere?
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Post by Mivi on Apr 3, 2015 2:58:28 GMT -6
For me, it was really just.. actually being in it. Every summer I would go down the river with friends. It's quite shallow at some parts, a LOT of rocks, and some rapids (which can be potentially hazardous - my fiance fell off his innertube and when he tried to come up for air, smacked his head against a rock from the current, luckily not too hard.. fucking scariest day of my life, since I can't swim and couldn't do anything but watch).
But it's never been terrible to me. In fact, it's only been pleasant. I've gone down that river more than a few times (without a life jacket) and somehow I've never had my innertube flipped, never permanently lost my flipflops (I've lost one on a couple occasions, but they always found their way back to me), never had the rapids splash so much water at me that I panicked. That river has killed - but it's not often. I think the last time was maybe 4 years or so ago.
And those times, I had not approached the river as a spirit. Just as a body of water that very well could kill me. But I was always respectful with it. Never left trash, always got in my friends' faces if they tried to leave trash, did my best to keep it as it was before I arrived.
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leithincluan
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Post by leithincluan on Apr 3, 2015 8:39:34 GMT -6
I used to live near the River Trent in Nottingham. This is one of my favourite pictures of the river. I couldn't ignore her - she was such a presence in the area - but it was very hard to find out anything pre-Christian about her. Eventually I found out that her Roman name was Trisantona meaning something like "divine trespasser". So Trisantona is what I call her. I did a lot of walking along the bank, meditating near it (in the places where you can get near enough), and generally spending time there. I made very small offerings too, being careful of the need for them to be biodegradable - a few wildflowers from my garden, water from a well in Ireland, those kinds of things. I'm currently trying to do the same with the Brent river, which may be linked to Brigantia. It's a much more urban river, running through north London, so it's difficult to get near it in places. I love how it winds through so many varied parts of London. It's the life-blood of the city itself. I need to go more and make a few small offerings.
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aiwelin
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Post by aiwelin on Apr 3, 2015 12:15:08 GMT -6
I could talk about river Goddesses and spirits all day. I grew up near two different creeks, both of which I became very attached to as sort of my own secret refuge. My grandmother took me as a child to the Platte, the major river system into which my creeks drained, several times a year just to play on the sandbars or watch the migrating birds. So She was a presence I grew up with, that I feel I always knew.
When I joined ADF back in 2012, it really got me thinking about consciously relating to the spirits around me that I had previously only recognized at the edges of my mind. It was then that I started actually approaching the river as a Goddess, composing prayers and songs, leaving offerings at familiar places where I had first connected with Her. I'm lucky enough now to live across the street from a tributary, so I try to leave an offering once a week.
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Post by Mari Opal on Apr 3, 2015 18:48:11 GMT -6
Hellenic polytheism has a specific class of river-gods -- the potamoi -- so since I live in a curve of the fourth largest river in, like, the world, it made perfect sense to me to honor Missippos (the name he and I have worked out so that I can refer to the god as opposed to the physical river). For the most part, I honor him in a manner consistent with Hellenic polytheism -- prayers and libations. It's not hard to get to the river, since it's just downtown.
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Post by aiwelin on Apr 5, 2015 9:43:34 GMT -6
One question I'm interested in from those of you who work with rivers and their tributaries: do you consider the small creeks and streams the same, separate, or a sort of in-between overlap from the larger river they flow into? This is something I've been considering for quite a while, and would love to hear other opinions on the matter.
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Post by jack on Apr 8, 2015 11:00:12 GMT -6
I live about half a mile from the Columbia as the crow flies and she looms large in my local practice. She's not loud like the more modern spirits, but she is so very present. I also view her as being in charge of, or maybe parental to, the spirits of the highways and train tracks that run along her banks. Travelling WA 14 or OR 26 is an opportunity to experience how she travels, for me.
As far as tributaries, I honor separately any river that has its own source. (Mostly though the other river I honor is the Willamette, which has hella personality so it's not an issue.)
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Post by Skywalker on Apr 8, 2015 17:29:35 GMT -6
I've tried connecting with some river spirits but I don't feel like there's much connection. The Platte is super-accessible around Denver. I'm about 20 miles south of the city and there's a path along the Platte from here all the way into town and I have no idea how far north or south it goes, so getting to the river is really easy. Especially since there's parks all up and down the path too. So there's plenty of opportunity for me to go down and say hi and leave offerings. But since I never remember to bring something for an offering, I usually just end up picking up trash I see.
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Post by Huri on Apr 8, 2015 18:01:26 GMT -6
I have a lot of access to the Trinity. I happen to live in one of it's bends. I haven't done anything Official or Formal yet but I try to go up there often and take in it's beauty. The top of the levee is a great place to watch storms roll in. People have feared or ignored that river for most of my town's history and we're finally getting to a time where people are active around and, more recently, in it. I'm gonna try to go to the in river concert this year and see how that goes. I have a bowl of offerings I wanted to turn into compost but I have no easy way of doing that... Not sure if I should burn or drown the offerings yet.
Oh, I almost forgot: I've seen a lot of otherworldly things at the river, especially at night and even more especially around Bealtaine and Samhain. Strange lights, figures chilling by the river that don't seem totally of this world...
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Post by ryeduck on Apr 15, 2015 6:01:26 GMT -6
I have not tried to make any contact with spirits of any kind, but I have a relationship with two rivers in particular: Shenandoah and Rapidan.
The Shenandoah is a river I've known practically my whole life. Used to canoe and kayak down it's currents all the time and I actually lived on it's banks for a few years. It's a relatively calm river and I've always felt welcome whenever I was on it. Kind of like a second home to me.
Rapidan is a smaller river that is a tributary of the Rappahannock (which I find to be beautiful, but wild and a tad aggressive if you're not careful). We used to go up into the mountains near it's source every year and the land up there has been very dear to me. Both the land and the river are very calming to me. Peaceful. I feel like there's an ancient wisdom up there.
I wonder if the spirits of those rivers have the personalities that I believe them to have. Will have to see.
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Post by Huri on Jul 4, 2015 16:10:53 GMT -6
On Midsummer the Trinity was flooded due to storms near it's source (the Red River flooded as well) and after 3 years of severe drought it was a sight to behold. It wasn't as flooded in Fort Worth as it was in Dallas but for the first time I could actually walk in the river! I was very careful, I'd been to this part of the river many times I knew where the floodplain ended. I had feelings to wear a dress that day and I'm so glad I did. Being able to actually touch and be in the water I had loved so much was just.... Amazing, really. I was there the day before as well, on the first day it flooded, and had an impromptu picnic on the levee bank and gave an offering of lemonade. (Mostly because in GP it's customary to give some of whatever you may be drinking outside to the Aos Sí, but I digress) It's gone back into the banks now, but it's still great to see it so full and lively after all these years. I'm going to try to formally communicate with the spirit using ogham, either the set I already have or maybe try to make one out of a tree near the river...
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