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Post by brimstonne on Jan 22, 2015 16:27:22 GMT -6
So what does 'Celtic' Mean?
Celtic is an umbrella term that covers the Brythonic, Celticiberians, Gaelic, and Gaulish cultures, each of which has is own set of myths and deities. The reason they are so commonly grouped together is due to the fact that their languages share a common root. Allec goes over where each type originates, in the 'What Can I Post Here?' Thread.
While all of these places may be either close together, or have some similarities, their cultures are vastly different, and to simply call them all 'Celtic' is rather disrespectful of those who's culture it is.
Why Do You Put 'Celtic' In Quotation Marks?
The reason I do this is because there is no one 'Celtic' Culture. When people combine all of these cultures together, and simply say that they are 'Celtic' it is called Pan-Celticism. While it is very easy to do this, because you don't know that there are differences in them, or that Pan-Celticism is even a thing, when you find out, it's a very good idea to research into the different cultures, and find the one that feels right to you, or that you are most interested in.
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Post by Sionnach Gorm on Jan 30, 2015 13:48:22 GMT -6
Indeed. If one were to encounter any non-academic book with the word "Celtic" in it, there is a remarkably strong chance that it is fantastical, romanticized, ballyhoo. This is particularly cogent when it comes to books on religion/ spirituality.
Celtic is best understood as a language family and multifaceted, regionally diverse culture. One can make the claim relating to genetic ancestry, but then groups that are traditionally seen as "Celtic", like the Irish, would not count, since an evaluation of their common genetic ancestry reveals that they predate the period when any sort of Celtic migration would have taken place. Alexi Kondratiev was not right about everything, but he was when he equated Celtic first and foremost as a language group. The term can also be useful (on a gradient of really to not at all) when speaking about historic ethnicities or tribes as encountered by the Greeks and Romans. Even then, this slipshod classification has resulted in enormous amounts of conjecture as to what was who and when.
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Post by Allec on Jan 30, 2015 14:23:33 GMT -6
I still really like how Jake Jackson describes in Celtic Myth (page 12):
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Post by hildeburh on Sept 23, 2015 4:30:55 GMT -6
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Post by Banned User on Oct 1, 2015 13:33:57 GMT -6
Jan 30, 2015 20:23:33 GMT Allec said:I still really like how Jake Jackson describes in Celtic Myth (page 12):
"Without their own accounts it is impossible to say whether the Iron Age tribes of Europe, including Britain, saw themselves as collectively ‘Celtic.’ It is true to say, however, that Caesar recognized similarities between Britain and Gaul, and there is ample evidence of the La Tène culture in the British Isles. In the absence of archaeological evidence to show a migration of peoples from Gaul to Britain....."
except that there were migrations of European tribes to Britain and Ireland also and there is archeological evidence for it. |
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Post by Allec on Oct 1, 2015 13:43:14 GMT -6
Where is that evidence, Gwyr?
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Post by Radha Ní Dhaimhín on Oct 1, 2015 13:49:15 GMT -6
Jan 30, 2015 20:23:33 GMT Allec said:I still really like how Jake Jackson describes in Celtic Myth (page 12):
"Without their own accounts it is impossible to say whether the Iron Age tribes of Europe, including Britain, saw themselves as collectively ‘Celtic.’ It is true to say, however, that Caesar recognized similarities between Britain and Gaul, and there is ample evidence of the La Tène culture in the British Isles. In the absence of archaeological evidence to show a migration of peoples from Gaul to Britain....."
except that there were migrations of European tribes to Britain and Ireland also and there is archeological evidence for it. |
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