Redfaery
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Pronouns: she/her/hers
Religion: Buddhist Polytheism
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Post by Redfaery on Mar 31, 2015 11:02:35 GMT -6
According to Mahayana Buddhism, we're ALL Otherkin/Therians. *runs away*
I think of myself as Otherkin, but I have no desire to seek out a kin group...I doubt one exists for me anyway. In any case, my view of my other-ness is Buddhist-influenced. I have lots of "types" since that's how rebirth works in my opinion. The main type that informs me is that of "celestial being," - one of the apsarases or tennin/tennyo in Buddhist cosmology. They were the entertainers to the deva/gods. I have vague memories - images really - of dancing in a palace of white and gold, bright as a sunlit cloud. The images pretty much tally with the descriptions in sutras of the beautiful, blissful lives of the deva.
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Post by adolphuscrowfeather on Mar 31, 2015 20:10:10 GMT -6
Again, I'm not Orherkin or Therian, so it gets hard to know what to do since I want to no dealings or association with that things. That was more of a edit, so sorry it sounded so harsh alone! I respect Otherkin and Therian as I said, but it's complicated, as I just can't bring myself to the Otherkin or Therian ideology, it just doesn't feel right. Thats is why in trying to find the ideology of reincarnation in Gaelic. I meant no disrespect to Otherkin/Therian, I just meant I myself don't want to associate with the practices or ideals of it.
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Post by adolphuscrowfeather on Apr 2, 2015 13:15:18 GMT -6
BTW, to add to my summary, if I sound like a complete jerk or donkey, I didn't mean to. My Aspergers and hindered social skills makes it hard to know what people mean or feel and I have a problem trying to say what I want to, myself due to processing. So please, tell me if I ever do, so I can try to rephrase after really processing enough. I always try to keep my posts positive and kind and constructive.
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Redfaery
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Posts: 72
Pronouns: she/her/hers
Religion: Buddhist Polytheism
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Post by Redfaery on Apr 2, 2015 16:52:35 GMT -6
Ah...sorry I didn't get to this sooner. I have Aspergers too, so I understand that it's really easy to say something and have it come out sounding totally wrong. So you're good. You didn't offend me at all. I knew you were an Aspie like me, and I figured this was just one of those Aspie moments when the wires got crossed!
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Post by Allec on Apr 2, 2015 19:35:47 GMT -6
Chiming in to say that I heard one other Gaelic Polytheist mention the idea that the soul gets to choose how its reincarnated--if its reincarnated at all--so you share the same belief as someone else! It is bothersome that we don't know for sure what the pre-Christian Gaels thought about the afterlife and such. But at least it means you can't be really wrong with how you view it I also think the idea of consequences makes a lot of sense in GP, as well in general. There are plenty of stories about the consequences of harming fairy trees and fairy mounds, for example, that result in curses or ill-health or other unsightly things.
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Post by adolphuscrowfeather on Apr 5, 2015 20:29:14 GMT -6
Hey guys! I know this was kind of said before, but in case people got more info or have any ideas or sources, what should I really do for my spirit? He's getting "worse" as in he's, well, getting very hyperactive since he has no true outlet. I asked a lot, but no answer from spirits fae or my Queens on what the heck my spirit did to dishonor himself, if that was the case. And they aren't helping me find him an outlet either. It would be interesting in dishonor punish sense I can't know anything or do anything about my spirit until he consumes me whole. That sure would really have me asking what the heck I did, for that would be torture. I don't want to be Otherkin or Therian as I said or integrate their practice, and am considering Fíanna. But Fianna isn't simple and I'm still confused on that. If traditional, that be best, but if realllllly needed to, I'll lean off tradition though it will bug me.
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Ciar Lionheart
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And I love you like a mountain.
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Religion: Irish Polytheist
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Post by Ciar Lionheart on Apr 6, 2015 20:35:02 GMT -6
Well, like I said when you asked me on tumblr, I don't really know much about reincarnation since my weird nonhuman shit doesn't have anything to do with it, but I figured I'd just comment since you seem to be a bit confused about it: "otherkin" isn't any one specific thing. Like, there's no such thing as "otherkin practice" or "otherkin philosophy," because everyone kind of does their own thing. The only unifying element in the otherkin community is that they all feel themselves to be in some way nonhuman. Whether that means it's a spiritual thing, a soul transplant, a reincarnation, a purely psychological phenomenon, or something else entirely... well, that depends on the person.
Basically "otherkin" is a matter of self-identification, so if you don't want to be otherkin then you can't be. Your spirit can't "force" you to be otherkin, even if it does find some way to consume you, because "otherkin" is just an identity label, not a particular type of practice.
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Post by adolphuscrowfeather on Apr 6, 2015 21:05:04 GMT -6
Well, like I said when you asked me on tumblr, I don't really know much about reincarnation since my weird nonhuman shit doesn't have anything to do with it, but I figured I'd just comment since you seem to be a bit confused about it: "otherkin" isn't any one specific thing. Like, there's no such thing as "otherkin practice" or "otherkin philosophy," because everyone kind of does their own thing. The only unifying element in the otherkin community is that they all feel themselves to be in some way nonhuman. Whether that means it's a spiritual thing, a soul transplant, a reincarnation, a purely psychological phenomenon, or something else entirely... well, that depends on the person. Basically "otherkin" is a matter of self-identification, so if you don't want to be otherkin then you can't be. Your spirit can't "force" you to be otherkin, even if it does find some way to consume you, because "otherkin" is just an identity label, not a particular type of practice. Yeah, it's hard for me to explain honestly. Aspie and all. Mainly, I feel somehow, either by some sort of consequence or maybe even will, my spirit, which I believe is a wolf, somehow got in a physical body. When I say consumes me, I honestly don't know if I'm being literal physically or litteral emotionaly or both or neither. I mean, without going deep myself, a wolf in a human body, is like a makeshift jail cell that's inescapable. I don't feel nonhuman, if that makes sense, and I dont ID as Otherkin, but I do feel my spirit that I know is a wolf and he does not love this one bit. It's powerful enough it's near the only thing I pray for really, to help it. (Maybe some small others but mainly that.) I don't really believe physically much, as its kind of far out to say I can physically be a wolf, or part, but even in tradition it's possible, but I don't really see it much for me. However, I do think my spirit affects me physically. I also believe that in a verrrrrrry low % in the decimal percent that some kind of power can make me a wolf, aka universal cause/theory which until the universe is 100% known, nothing is 100% certain. Maybe, I should be asking, what do you reccomend to help it? Besides reincarnation, just the idea in general?
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Post by Allec on Apr 7, 2015 19:49:35 GMT -6
Well, do you know what is paining the wolf spirit specifically? Is it not having a wolf body?
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Post by adolphuscrowfeather on Apr 7, 2015 21:23:03 GMT -6
Well, do you know what is paining the wolf spirit specifically? Is it not having a wolf body? Honestly, it's hard to say. That's my only logical answer honestly. But I think it even goes to not even having a spiritual haven either. Like, in simple terms per say, like a getaway spiritually to a place meant for him/me if physical is not reachable. He longs to, well, be a wolf I guess, maybe longing for that freedom or something. Not a 10hr working school person who has a hard time getting outside to do as he wish without fear of suspicion for having a hand on a tree for hours in the rain and loving the cool wet dirt etc. Honestly, I could probably make a poem on my feelings with that outside stuff alone which I do associate spiritually and with my spirit (if they can be considered separate things.) and of course I could make poems on my spirit himself. (But that isn't important atm.) Biggest Problem: I can't really easily answer that question with certainty. I am kind of shrouded myself trying to know my sprit. The fae or the Queens seem not very inclined to my prayers, so it isn't helpful there (but I still love them to death of course.) I've been trying to find the answer to my spirit for a while, and when I really think of it, though I was starting off a bad appropriative path that I hated, esp now, I really think I went to earth-based religions near the fact of my spirit and feelings for nature, and after that everything else pretty much clicked, esp in Gaelic Pol in near perfection. So unless I get a unexpected revelation tonight, (been years kind of as my last real wolf thing in terms of revelation was only when I found it out it was, with actual wolf dreams being only recently once after again years) I really can't answer that completely. I think I did say a lot that might help answer things, but the hardest part might be trying to find out if possible how to traditionally aide it. I would ask stones, but I want to make sure I ask the right question, and I don't have money to donate and I have to respect it takes a lot of energy and etc.
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Post by adolphuscrowfeather on Apr 9, 2015 17:52:48 GMT -6
I guess to add, its hard to say this, but let's say I can physically be a wolf somehow, I'm pretty sure I wouldnt want to turn back, so in a way, I think you are right. If it happened for me to turn back after turning, I'd be probally scarred.
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Post by adolphuscrowfeather on Apr 10, 2015 23:26:16 GMT -6
I don't really know. Right now he seems in a verrrry deep spot, and I reallllly hope I can do something for him/me for I don't really know how much more he can take before he really does consume me whole. I mentioned in my Morrígan post, and she realllly isn't helping, so it's really a downer there. And I feel at harms way if I ever ask another for help if I have nothing to offer but also bad if I offer something for something in return so I'm in a bad spot really. :/
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Post by Allec on Apr 11, 2015 16:25:11 GMT -6
You could try mediating and creating a mental and/or spiritual place for the wolf to live? Maybe creating first a shrine area for the wolf, then trying to mediate and visualize a place where the wolf can be free from your body--even if just temporarily. I say this as someone who has a lot of difficulty mediating and visualizing, so it may be something you have to work at and allow yourself to fail many, many times before you can actually do it.
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Post by adolphuscrowfeather on Apr 12, 2015 1:49:37 GMT -6
You could try mediating and creating a mental and/or spiritual place for the wolf to live? Maybe creating first a shrine area for the wolf, then trying to mediate and visualize a place where the wolf can be free from your body--even if just temporarily. I say this as someone who has a lot of difficulty mediating and visualizing, so it may be something you have to work at and allow yourself to fail many, many times before you can actually do it. I think this will help, but with that I formerly did not really try more after many fails. I don't think I really successfully meditated in the way your saying, as I can for poems, in a way, since that technically is meditation, but in this type of meditation is hard. I might try to make a shrine for my spirit, but it's a weird awkward thing to have a Shrine for a part of yourself, but at the same time it isn't human so technically isn't me but still is eashhhh.... Confusing. But I'm sure I can get a flow going. I thank you for answering. It isn't the easiest to answer I know, but I think what you say really helps. If you find it anyone else finds Ideas or etc, please feel free to post so I can try all tactic points. I'd love to create a place for my spirit but I might need suggestions for that with also meditation, so if tips if any would be appreciated. I sometimes feel I have intrusive thoughts, so a deer could turn into a bugged cartoon scary character for no good reason In my mind, but like that weird you see it but you don't actually see it kind of things, like you see pitch black but can see what your thinking in your head? With that in mind, if I can get pass that to replace the darkness, that might help. Anyways, thanks. It means a lot to me, and especially my spirit.
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Post by Allec on Apr 12, 2015 10:50:09 GMT -6
I'll be keeping you and your wolf spirit in mind, and if anything else should come up, I'll let you know ASAP.
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