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Post by adolphuscrowfeather on Apr 12, 2015 16:11:25 GMT -6
I'll be keeping you and your wolf spirit in mind, and if anything else should come up, I'll let you know ASAP. Thank you. It means a lot.
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Post by adolphuscrowfeather on Apr 13, 2015 12:06:42 GMT -6
So, I had this dream, and have no idea on my conclusions on it. It happened the first night, last night, when I made my wolf spirit a shrine, (nothing more than a arm knitted arm scarf I made a while back and a pewter wolf necklace I had that broke off its neckpiece) and I think prayed to it. Before I say it, I don't know if even this dream was on my spirit, for it could very well be the fae, the queens, or otherwise that wishes for what was stated. (Detail more after dream.)
"For some reason, my family and I was picking up small dead creatures of the ground near a forest, when a wolf, with grey/silvery fur tinted blue by the lighting of the area, with orange tinted eyes that was staring us down, with his black lined mouth (common seen with all canines) slightly open with some but only a few growls. I thought I disturbed his food, so I think I put it down, but the others still went to get more dead animals, even when the wolf was right there. I slightly hurried to the right to get out of his direct path, but since I was the only one who moved quickly, he had his focus on me. But not once in all of this did he attack anyone."
By others, I mean like the queens/fae/etc wanting food offerings, which could be an answer to my ask what the Queens want from me.
For my spirit, well, that might be confusing. Was I seeing his nature? His looks per say? His personality? Was it even relevant to him at all?
Should I consider seeing if tonight, since my spirit is well, me, if the same thing happens? I'm pretty sure, since I didn't really try hard last night (really nothing at all) so if something does tonight, then I know it's him?
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Post by Allec on Apr 13, 2015 20:40:31 GMT -6
I say trust your gut on this. You seem to know the answers better than you are letting yourself realize.
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Post by adolphuscrowfeather on Apr 14, 2015 6:39:41 GMT -6
I say trust your gut on this. You seem to know the answers better than you are letting yourself realize. Well, nothing really did happen last night, but honestly I am pretty sure that this was my spirit, in some way. I don't know exactly how it was my spirit or in what way but at least I got it distinguished it seems. Nothing against my Queens, they are usually silent anyways, so I wouldn't expect for them to talk, and if I did misinterpret it and it was from her, I am pretty sure I'd know. The only real possible other option could possibly being more hospitable to a local spirit or fae, which could be possible as well, but I have been, when food at least falls, give them what I can of it and try to always be welcoming. So in the end, I can safely assume its my spirit, but only leaves what I need to do to actually trigger or make a spiritual haven, another interaction (which is confusing just a bit, seeing your own spirit, anyways...), or whatever could happen in that area for my spirit. I'll definitely continue meditation, but I think I just put myself in a trap since that dream came so easy due to a quick shrine I made (I guess even movable but I probably wont move it.) But I am sure I will persevere and get something going, hopefully sooner than later.
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Post by adolphuscrowfeather on Apr 16, 2015 8:38:03 GMT -6
Redacted for negative feelings on post
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Post by adolphuscrowfeather on Apr 17, 2015 8:41:50 GMT -6
Redacted by me fir negative feelings on post.
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Post by adolphuscrowfeather on Apr 17, 2015 8:56:30 GMT -6
Well, like I said when you asked me on tumblr, I don't really know much about reincarnation since my weird nonhuman shit doesn't have anything to do with it, but I figured I'd just comment since you seem to be a bit confused about it: "otherkin" isn't any one specific thing. Like, there's no such thing as "otherkin practice" or "otherkin philosophy," because everyone kind of does their own thing. The only unifying element in the otherkin community is that they all feel themselves to be in some way nonhuman. Whether that means it's a spiritual thing, a soul transplant, a reincarnation, a purely psychological phenomenon, or something else entirely... well, that depends on the person. Basically "otherkin" is a matter of self-identification, so if you don't want to be otherkin then you can't be. Your spirit can't "force" you to be otherkin, even if it does find some way to consume you, because "otherkin" is just an identity label, not a particular type of practice. I know it's random, but I'd like to know more on your practices and non-human thing if you don't mind sharing. It seems very interesting to me. Who knows. It may also help depending.
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Post by Ciar Lionheart on Apr 17, 2015 15:44:46 GMT -6
I know it's random, but I'd like to know more on your practices and non-human thing if you don't mind sharing. It seems very interesting to me. Who knows. It may also help depending. Well, my thing is a faery thing rather than an animal thing, to start with. But I've always felt very nonhuman and the more I learn about faeries the more that lore clicks in my head as "that just makes sense" (I've had a lot of experiences where myself and other fey-identified people have absurdly specific traits in common—not just tastes and feelings but complex and detailed thought processes that don't seem common to the population in general). So, obviously, as Gaelic polytheists we have a well-established folkloric tradition involving the intermingling of humans and fey: stolen changelings. I don't believe that I personally was swapped at birth (it just doesn't really make sense with my life experience, plus some stuff about my parents that I've taken into consideration), but it absolutely makes sense to me that one of my ancestors could have been a fey changeling, on either side of the family. My dad's family is almost entirely from the British Isles, including Scotland, Ireland, and England, and my mom's grandfather was a foundling raised in the church. It's not really much of a "practice," to be honest, it's just my natural state of being. I don't have any work to do to integrate my nonhuman side into myself, because the nonhuman side is myself. The only way it really affects my practice is in that I approach the Tuatha Dé Danann a bit less as a human worshipper, and a bit more as one of their own people honouring legendary folkloric heroes. It's just what makes the most sense to me.
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Post by adolphuscrowfeather on Apr 18, 2015 8:53:23 GMT -6
I know it's random, but I'd like to know more on your practices and non-human thing if you don't mind sharing. It seems very interesting to me. Who knows. It may also help depending. Well, my thing is a faery thing rather than an animal thing, to start with. But I've always felt very nonhuman and the more I learn about faeries the more that lore clicks in my head as "that just makes sense" (I've had a lot of experiences where myself and other fey-identified people have absurdly specific traits in common—not just tastes and feelings but complex and detailed thought processes that don't seem common to the population in general). So, obviously, as Gaelic polytheists we have a well-established folkloric tradition involving the intermingling of humans and fey: stolen changelings. I don't believe that I personally was swapped at birth (it just doesn't really make sense with my life experience, plus some stuff about my parents that I've taken into consideration), but it absolutely makes sense to me that one of my ancestors could have been a fey changeling, on either side of the family. My dad's family is almost entirely from the British Isles, including Scotland, Ireland, and England, and my mom's grandfather was a foundling raised in the church. It's not really much of a "practice," to be honest, it's just my natural state of being. I don't have any work to do to integrate my nonhuman side into myself, because the nonhuman side is myself. The only way it really affects my practice is in that I approach the Tuatha Dé Danann a bit less as a human worshipper, and a bit more as one of their own people honouring legendary folkloric heroes. It's just what makes the most sense to me. That sounds very interesting Ciar . The only thing to add would be for me, I do believe my wolf spirit is myself, but for some reason it is hard to, well, make it more dominant? Never once out of the day can I really just neglect my spirit. That's a problem in which since my spirit needs to be himself but can't. In a way, to compare to your nonhuman faery thing, you have a physical situation, so you are yourself in a way already. For me, my spirit is in a human body, so it can't be my spirits self. I don't know how land spirits are suppose to interact differently with the fae or the divine, and maybe knowing that will help me know how to approach them? But yeah, you are very lucky and you're situation looks beautiful . For me, my spirit being in a human body pushes the very life in me to try to help my spirit, and it gets very stressful trying to do things and I lose hope easily on it due to its deep passion and "right now" need. If I could make it like you do to have it so I don't need a practice for my spirit, and it just am my spirit more or it takes dominance... That would be beautiful. Right now, it seems like I am like said before in some bad afterlife choice or just a game of another being. But still, is there a difference in how land spirits interact with the faery, deities, etc, ancestors?
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Post by Ciar Lionheart on Apr 18, 2015 14:14:45 GMT -6
That sounds very interesting Ciar :). The only thing to add would be for me, I do believe my wolf spirit is myself, but for some reason it is hard to, well, make it more dominant? Never once out of the day can I really just neglect my spirit. That's a problem in which since my spirit needs to be himself but can't. In a way, to compare to your nonhuman faery thing, you have a physical situation, so you are yourself in a way already. For me, my spirit is in a human body, so it can't be my spirits self. I don't know how land spirits are suppose to interact differently with the fae or the divine, and maybe knowing that will help me know how to approach them? But yeah, you are very lucky and you're situation looks beautiful :). For me, my spirit being in a human body pushes the very life in me to try to help my spirit, and it gets very stressful trying to do things and I lose hope easily on it due to its deep passion and "right now" need. If I could make it like you do to have it so I don't need a practice for my spirit, and it just am my spirit more or it takes dominance... That would be beautiful. Right now, it seems like I am like said before in some bad afterlife choice or just a game of another being. But still, is there a difference in how land spirits interact with the faery, deities, etc, ancestors? Hm, not that I really know of? I've always conceptualized the land spirits in Gaelic mythology as being fey themselves, or at the very least closely related. They would be the more solitary fey, while the side I identify with more is the "trooping fey" or the ones who are part of courts and kingdoms (when people ask me what kind of fey I feel I am I usually just kind of shrug and go "aos sí?" because I honestly don't know more than that). My advice would be to try whatever feels right and experiment until it clicks. It's probably something you'll have to figure out yourself. As for making your spirit feel more comfortable in your human body and human life, I know you don't like the otherkin stuff but the otherkin community on tumblr has a lot of strategies for that. There's a food blog I particularly like that posts recipes aimed at specific kintypes (it's called kinfood, I definitely recommend it), and I believe there are some home decor/living space/lifestyle blogs too. Maybe try making your living space something more welcoming to the wolf? It might help a lot.
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Post by adolphuscrowfeather on Apr 20, 2015 4:55:12 GMT -6
That sounds very interesting Ciar . The only thing to add would be for me, I do believe my wolf spirit is myself, but for some reason it is hard to, well, make it more dominant? Never once out of the day can I really just neglect my spirit. That's a problem in which since my spirit needs to be himself but can't. In a way, to compare to your nonhuman faery thing, you have a physical situation, so you are yourself in a way already. For me, my spirit is in a human body, so it can't be my spirits self. I don't know how land spirits are suppose to interact differently with the fae or the divine, and maybe knowing that will help me know how to approach them? But yeah, you are very lucky and you're situation looks beautiful . For me, my spirit being in a human body pushes the very life in me to try to help my spirit, and it gets very stressful trying to do things and I lose hope easily on it due to its deep passion and "right now" need. If I could make it like you do to have it so I don't need a practice for my spirit, and it just am my spirit more or it takes dominance... That would be beautiful. Right now, it seems like I am like said before in some bad afterlife choice or just a game of another being. But still, is there a difference in how land spirits interact with the faery, deities, etc, ancestors? Hm, not that I really know of? I've always conceptualized the land spirits in Gaelic mythology as being fey themselves, or at the very least closely related. They would be the more solitary fey, while the side I identify with more is the "trooping fey" or the ones who are part of courts and kingdoms (when people ask me what kind of fey I feel I am I usually just kind of shrug and go "aos sí?" because I honestly don't know more than that). My advice would be to try whatever feels right and experiment until it clicks. It's probably something you'll have to figure out yourself. As for making your spirit feel more comfortable in your human body and human life, I know you don't like the otherkin stuff but the otherkin community on tumblr has a lot of strategies for that. There's a food blog I particularly like that posts recipes aimed at specific kintypes (it's called kinfood, I definitely recommend it), and I believe there are some home decor/living space/lifestyle blogs too. Maybe try making your living space something more welcoming to the wolf? It might help a lot. Thanks for the tips . I might be okay with "kinfood?" I guess, and I didn't find anything on housing etc. However, I will only be able to actually do that in a few years or so (in mid/late teens). So, for my spirit send interactions, a few questions if you don't mind. What does solitary fey mean? And, even though I will expirement, what is your recommendation in that area so I can try that if nothing seems to be clicking for fae interactions with everything?
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Post by Ciar Lionheart on Apr 20, 2015 13:22:09 GMT -6
Hm, not that I really know of? I've always conceptualized the land spirits in Gaelic mythology as being fey themselves, or at the very least closely related. They would be the more solitary fey, while the side I identify with more is the "trooping fey" or the ones who are part of courts and kingdoms (when people ask me what kind of fey I feel I am I usually just kind of shrug and go "aos sí?" because I honestly don't know more than that). My advice would be to try whatever feels right and experiment until it clicks. It's probably something you'll have to figure out yourself. As for making your spirit feel more comfortable in your human body and human life, I know you don't like the otherkin stuff but the otherkin community on tumblr has a lot of strategies for that. There's a food blog I particularly like that posts recipes aimed at specific kintypes (it's called kinfood, I definitely recommend it), and I believe there are some home decor/living space/lifestyle blogs too. Maybe try making your living space something more welcoming to the wolf? It might help a lot. Thanks for the tips :). I might be okay with "kinfood?" I guess, and I didn't find anything on housing etc. However, I will only be able to actually do that in a few years or so (in mid/late teens). So, for my spirit send interactions, a few questions if you don't mind. What does solitary fey mean? And, even though I will expirement, what is your recommendation in that area so I can try that if nothing seems to be clicking for fae interactions with everything? Solitary fey are the fey who aren't attached to a court or a troop. A lot of them are associated with particular land features, like kelpies with lakes and each uisce with rivers and púca with the fields. There's a bit about it on Wikipedia, on the page about the Classifications of Fairies. Sometimes household fey are considered to be "solitary" as well, since they're not attached to a court either, but as it says on the page there it can also be another classification entirely. Honestly, I don't really know what to suggest re: interacting with religion from a fey perspective. It's not really anything concrete that I... do, per se. It just kind of is. I just try to approach the Tuatha Dé and the fey as one of their people, rather than an outsider. I consider myself a distant descendant of the Aos Sí, and therefore ultimately of the Tuatha Dé (in the sense that I am one of their people, the people led by the deities, not that I'm one of the deities myself).
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Post by adolphuscrowfeather on Apr 20, 2015 21:11:30 GMT -6
Thanks for the tips . I might be okay with "kinfood?" I guess, and I didn't find anything on housing etc. However, I will only be able to actually do that in a few years or so (in mid/late teens). So, for my spirit send interactions, a few questions if you don't mind. What does solitary fey mean? And, even though I will expirement, what is your recommendation in that area so I can try that if nothing seems to be clicking for fae interactions with everything? Solitary fey are the fey who aren't attached to a court or a troop. A lot of them are associated with particular land features, like kelpies with lakes and each uisce with rivers and púca with the fields. There's a bit about it on Wikipedia, on the page about the Classifications of Fairies. Sometimes household fey are considered to be "solitary" as well, since they're not attached to a court either, but as it says on the page there it can also be another classification entirely. Honestly, I don't really know what to suggest re: interacting with religion from a fey perspective. It's not really anything concrete that I... do, per se. It just kind of is. I just try to approach the Tuatha Dé and the fey as one of their people, rather than an outsider. I consider myself a distant descendant of the Aos Sí, and therefore ultimately of the Tuatha Dé (in the sense that I am one of their people, the people led by the deities, not that I'm one of the deities myself). Thanks. I will definitely try that. And thanks for the info too! And, this sadly is because of my Aspergers, how, if explainable, do you approach them as one of their people? I mean, I don't know my place enough to know how I'd rank even as a solitary faery, but like still, I am a weeee bit confused there? Confused on both actually: my actual place/ranking and how I approach them as one of them. Let's just say physical human really messes me up (me being my wolf spirit.)
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Post by Ciar Lionheart on Apr 21, 2015 16:23:53 GMT -6
Solitary fey are the fey who aren't attached to a court or a troop. A lot of them are associated with particular land features, like kelpies with lakes and each uisce with rivers and púca with the fields. There's a bit about it on Wikipedia, on the page about the Classifications of Fairies. Sometimes household fey are considered to be "solitary" as well, since they're not attached to a court either, but as it says on the page there it can also be another classification entirely. Honestly, I don't really know what to suggest re: interacting with religion from a fey perspective. It's not really anything concrete that I... do, per se. It just kind of is. I just try to approach the Tuatha Dé and the fey as one of their people, rather than an outsider. I consider myself a distant descendant of the Aos Sí, and therefore ultimately of the Tuatha Dé (in the sense that I am one of their people, the people led by the deities, not that I'm one of the deities myself). Thanks. I will definitely try that. And thanks for the info too! And, this sadly is because of my Aspergers, how, if explainable, do you approach them as one of their people? I mean, I don't know my place enough to know how I'd rank even as a solitary faery, but like still, I am a weeee bit confused there? Confused on both actually: my actual place/ranking and how I approach them as one of them. Let's just say physical human really messes me up (me being my wolf spirit.) I don't necessarily even think about rank myself tbh... most of the fey I interact with are the "common fey" of my local Wild Hunt, so I just kinda talk to them as equals for the most part. As for approaching them as one of them, I just try to talk to them as if... we're part of the same group. You know how you can have in-group conversations where you're fairly casual and you know everyone is in solidarity with you in some way, and out-group conversations where you have to approach people more respectfully, if only because you don't know how they'd react to you joking around? I usually treat them as an in-group. It seems to work for me.
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Post by adolphuscrowfeather on Apr 26, 2015 7:20:23 GMT -6
Before I continue in any of this, I really must truly apologize near all I say is negative, and I wish I had more beautiful or positive experiences to share. For some reason, despite my undying love for this religion, either I'm not doing enough or I'm untouchable somehow.
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